Ping - Michael Glasser "Snit", the proven piece of shit liar

"Nope. He (Ezekiel) made it clear he believed 50% or more of the people
receiving disability should not be... he is attacking them as lazy scammers
or whatever because they are *disabled*. It is offensive that he does so and
it is in no way dishonest to call him out on it.

Since you claim that I "made it clear" then why don't you show *exactly*
where I made this clear.

Why don't you for once quit running from your words and backup your claims.

HINT - Your deliberate mis-interpretation of what I actually said does NOT
count as my "clearly" saying this.

"...he believed 50% or more of the people receiving disability should not
be" (LIE)

"he is attacking them as lazy scammers or whatever because they are
*disabled*. " (LIE)


Let's see the post where I made this "clear." Time to man-up and show the
proof or forever be the worthless piece of shit that everyone knows that you
are.

There is one thing that both "trolls" and "advocates" are in prefect
agreement on. Everyone agrees that you're a dishonest piece of shit liar.

--
"Nope. He (Ezekiel) made it clear he believed 50% or more of the people
receiving disability should not be... he is attacking them as lazy scammers
or whatever because they are *disabled*. It is offensive that he does so and
it is in no way dishonest to call him out on it.

Piece of shit liar named Michael Glasser "Snit"
Oct 28, 2013
Message-ID: <CE93F643.2421D%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>

On 10/29/13, 8:49 AM, in article l4oles$puh$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
See below. It was in the post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>.
I make it very clear. See below. It was in the post that broke Ezekiel:
<http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>.
If you think I misunderstood something then:
1) Do not assume you are misunderstood on purpose
2) Explain what you really mean and do not just name call and attack

But by all appearances cannot do that - seems you have no honest response to
the post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>. If I am wrong, of
course, show it - but right now you are still throwing a tantrum. When you
calm down a bit maybe you will be able to respond more maturely. I hope so.
All shown in the post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>.
All shown in the post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>.
If that is the case then why can't any of you quote me actually, you know,
lying? Look at all your attacks... simply because you cannot give an honest
response to a post:

The post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>
1) Ezekiel cannot defend Republican Obstructionism
2) Ezekiel mocks 50%+ of those on disability as being paid not to work
3) Ezekiel cannot defend the US funding Walmart's labor needs

Come on, Ezekiel, are you going to just keep attacking me or are you going
to actually grow up a little and either defend your BS or at least let it
go?


--
The post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
1) Ezekiel cannot defend Republican Obstructionism
2) Ezekiel mocks 50%+ of those on disability as being paid not to work
3) Ezekiel cannot defend the US funding Walmart's labor needs

Do yourself a solid one brother and shit can that pathological liar Michael snit Glasser. He isn't worth the time nor the effort. Even that idiot Flatfish seems to be ignoring him these days. It's the first intelligent thing the Pleuronectiformes has done in ages. Get ready for him to enter his apologetic phase in order to suck you and the others who have him kill filed back into his snit circus. I predict there will also be a few new socks appearing in cola as well. All snit of course. And if you happen to have a personal website you had better make sure it's secured because snit likes to drop kiddie scripts in on unsuspecting users.

"Snit" <use...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
news:CE952B65.2435A%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
> See below. It was in the post that ...

Complete lack of a quote where I "made it clear" noted.
Complete lack of a quote where I "made it clear" noted.
You claimed that I "made it clear." Very simple, show *exactly* where I
made it clear. If I made this "clear" then there is no reason for a
dishonest liar like to to misunderstand anything. It should all be very
"clear."
I "made it clear." There should be nothing to misunderstand.
I don't have to explain what I never said. A dishonest piece of shit liar
like you claimed that I "made it clear" so the burden of proof is on *you*
to backup your claim. It is not up to me to prove what I never said.
Go fuck yourself you dishonest piece of shit liar.

--
"Prescott Computer Guy"
"You are now attacking people for being *disabled*! That is insane."
"Prescott Computer Guy"
Oct 28, 2013
Message-ID: <CE93D031.24204%use...@gallopinginsanity.com>

He is in liars mode right now. The best thing to do is let it drop and
put him in the filters. A non-response really gets his goat the worst.
After all, he is practicing the time tested tactic of a communist.

>"Snit's Neighbor Larry The Washington." <larrywashi...@gmail.com>
>wrote in message
>news:531c6a5f-bc90-45b0...@googlegroups.com...
I am certainly going to. There is absolutely no way he can defend his lies
because I know exactly what I said and didn't say so he has exactly zero
chance of backing up his bullshit.

But before I shit can that twisted pathological liar forever, I'm going to
make him twist and squirm a bit just to directly point out to him what a
pathetic piece of shit liar he really is. I honestly think that he's to
stupid to know when he's lying and when he's not.
"Prescott Computer Guy"

"GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com> wrote in message
news:0sCdnb85ZdQPQvLP...@bresnan.com...
Like I just wrote to "Larry" - the dishonest Snit liar is definitely going
to be ignored and forever. But before I put him on permanent ignore I want
to make it clear to that asshole beyond a shadow of a doubt why he's being
ignored. Perhaps that ignorant moron has enough brain cells to quit trying
to defend his lies and perhaps even realized that he outright misrepresented
and lied about what I said.

--
"Prescott Computer Guy"

There are plenty of times when this is the case; given the extent you went to clarify here I'm pretty sure this isn't one of them.

There are any number of things one could point out in the thread in question where Snit was being disingenuous (and just plain stupid) but I think the following exchange tells one all he/she needs to know:

When you wrote one of several clarifications (that, notably, Snit continued to ignore):

“I'm attacking a broken government program that isn't able to adequately care for people who are truly disabled because it's overburdened by fraud, waste and abuse.

Snit replied with:

“See: you are making an accusation against many on disability for being their fraudulently when there is no evidence of this and plenty of reason to not only think this is *not* true but to believe many who should be on disability are not.”


Doesn't get much 'clearer' than that ;)

>"Steve Carroll" <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:205138c8-f252-4573...@googlegroups.com...
You're probably right. It doesn't get any clearer or easier to understand
than that.

But Snot will continue with his usual "mo" and continue to ask me over and
over and over again to "clarify" what I wrote, which was already done. But
he'll run away and refuse to backup his claims and false accusations because
it'll always be up to me to clarify what I wrote.

Where he comes up with bullshit like "He made it clear he believed 50% or
more of the people receiving disability should not be...." is anyones guess.
Then again, he's a delusional liar so someone actually having said what that
liar claims isn't a prerequisite.

I've seen this happen many times to other people. And now it's happened to
me. All it takes is once to "wake up" and realize what a dishonest piece of
shit Michael Glasser is.

Problem is, there are a lot of his type in the communities across
america. These are communists and communism really never died down.
He is most likely one of that 1 million man army that Obama promised to
have and get paid well for treason. He's just one of the many Brown
Shirters.

On 10/29/13, 9:21 AM, in article l4ona1$6h4$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
What lies? Remember: The post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
I am merely responding to your attacks and accusations with honesty and
kindness - letting you know I am not taking your tantrum personally and
letting you know if you think you have been misunderstood I am very much
open to you explaining yourself better than you did previously.

No squirming at all from me... just a kind, mature reaction to your tantrum.

On 10/29/13, 9:15 AM, in article l4omui$47k$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Notice your snipping and insults and accusations and denials - but no honest
response from you for this: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
When you are done with your tantrum I will still be willing to listen to
you.

On 10/29/13, 9:26 AM, in article l4onjk$8d2$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Or until you can find an honest response. Likely the same time frame.
Remember:
It is already perfectly clear: you made claims you could not back, were
questioned about them, and through a tantrum. But as I keep telling you,
when you are done with your tantrum I will still be willing to listen to
you. I shall never sink to your level of lying and attacking and pushing
false accusations.
Notice how you accuse me of lying but show no evidence. You are simply
throwing a tantrum.

On 10/29/13, 10:17 AM, in article l4oqjq$s2r$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Based on what you wrote. And I quoted. And then you started throwing a
tantrum. Amazing to watch.
Remember: I quoted you saying the things you deny saying. When you are done
with your tantrum maybe you will be ready to offer an honest response.

On 10/29/13, 9:17 AM, in article
0sCdnb85ZdQPQvLP...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
If you think I am lying then by all means do quote these "lies".

As far as not responding to me, I certainly would prefer that to Ezekiel's
tantrum where he is lashing out with vicious attacks over his inability to
defend his own claims or answer simple questions.

On 10/29/13, 11:00 AM, in article
75ednQUt6LUsavLP...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Wow. Really... just wow.

news:CE954F21.24389%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
I don't give a shit about some msg-id to one of your moronic posts. It's
very simple that even a dishonest dimwit like you should be able to handle
it.

-----> "He (Ezekiel) made it clear he believed 50% or more of the people
it is in no way dishonest to call him out on it." <---------------

Since I "made it clear" then why don't you post the *exact quote* from me
where I made this clear. Not some bullshit link to some bullshit post from
you. Post the *exact* quote where I made this clear.

You made this claim. NOW BACK IT UP with my exact quote. Not some link to
one of your bullshit posts that nobody is interested in reading. Post
*exactly* what I wrote that backs up your claims.
I don't give a fuck about the republican obstructionism because it has zero
to do with your bullshit claims of how I "attacked disabled people."
This is your lie that you are unwilling and unable to prove. Where is my
quote saying this?? Oh wait... the piece of shit Michael Glasser will now
run away.
I don't give a fuck about Walmart and I'm under no obligation to anyone to
defend what they do or don't do. Quit trying to divert the subject from your
bullshit claims.
When you are done dodging your lies you can go fuck yourself.

--

news:CE955037.2438E%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
The only thing here that's "amazing to watch" is what a dishonest piece of
shit liar you are.

-----> "He (Ezekiel) made it clear he believed 50% or more of the people
you. Post the *exact* quote where I made this clear.
Lack of quote noted once again. Just a bunch of "I quoted you" bullshit
without any actual quote.


--

news:CE955088.2438F%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
<quote>
</quote>

Done. Several of your lies have been quoted. You can now go fuck yourself.

--
"Prescott Computer Guy"

Yeah, just wow. Why are you committing treason?
Did this admin pay you well for this treason and gave you a brown shirt?

They've already been pointed out to you, but you won't read them and
continue with your delusions. You now should ask your handlers how to
proceed.

news:A4KdnYIpopjGlu3P...@bresnan.com...
That idiot keeps asking for someone to quote his lies, so people quote them
and his response is to not address the lies that were quoted but to just
keep asking people to quote the lies again.

<quote>
</quote>

Time for Snot to snip the lies that were quoted, pretend that he's not a
dishonest piece of shit and to once again ask people to quote his lies.Wash,
rinse, repeat.

He knows that he's a liar so he creates this "Snit Circus" diversion hoping
that people will forget.


--
"Prescott Computer Guy"

On 10/29/13, 11:56 AM, in article l4p0d9$277$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Right: in the midst of your tantrum you care more about attacks and insults
and lashing out. Questions of your views, quotes of your comments, evidence,
data, logic - those things mean nothing to you. See below for proof:
But when you are done with your tantrum I will still be here, waiting to
give you a chance. I am kind... even as you tie your attacks to my business
name to seed Google. You do realize that takes a special kind of anger and
insanity, right?

On 10/29/13, 12:01 PM, in article l4p0lk$413$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
See the post that broke Ezekiel: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
Exact quotes are provided there. When you are done with your tantrum I will
be open to listening to your apology or attempt to explain yourself or
whatever. I shall never sink to your level of lying, spewing false
accusations, making absurd insults, and certainly will never try to harm you
in your personal or business life, as you have done with me.

Simply: I shall not sink to your level. Ever.
You have repeatedly said you are going to stop responding to me - but in
your tantrum you are out of control. I hope you gain some self-control soon.

On 10/29/13, 12:02 PM, in article l4p0oh$4ht$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
But now show that your quote is a lie. Remember, I show it is *not*:
Direct quotes from you where you attack people for using disability
benefits.

All you are left with is name calling and insults and accusations. Quite
repulsive of you. But I will not hold your tantrum against you.

On 10/29/13, 12:33 PM, in article l4p2ht$glq$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
That is a quote from me, but you are lacking a key part - showing it is a
benefits. And, yes, you speak of the numbers doubling. Maybe you cannot see
how that ties to the 50%? Do you need a math lesson?

Say you have 2 widgets. You get double that. Now you have 4. Still with me?

2 of those 4 widgets are now half the widgets.

Hopefully that helps you to understand.
There were no lies from me quoted, so nothing for me to snip. When you are
done with your tantrum perhaps you will understand this.

Until then, I suggest you read the post that broke Ezekiel:
I am responding to your attacks - which is what the "Snit Circus" is - my
tendency to respond to those who troll me. If you do not want me to respond
to your vicious attacks then get over your tantrum and stop making them.

Seems very simple to me, but perhaps you are not in a position to understand
such things right now, given your current state.

On 10/29/13, 12:23 PM, in article
A4KdnYMpopiFlu3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Again: wow. Just wow.

You think it is "treason" to disagree with your politics and to back my
views with evidence and data. I find that... amazing, to say the least.

On 10/29/13, 12:24 PM, in article
A4KdnYIpopjGlu3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
He keeps quoting me but not responding to where I have shown him saying what
Again: if he thinks he has been misunderstood I am open to listening to him
when he is done with his tantrum. I hope he gets to that point soon, for his
sake. He is embarrassing himself horribly!

news:CE955FF3.243AB%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
LOL - A hypocrite like you whining about "attacks and insults." Why is it
that this never occured to you when you lied and claimed that I'm attacking
disabled people?

> See below for proof:

Complete lack of proof noted. Here's the lie you posted, why can't you show
the *exact* quote from me where I "clearly" say this?

<quote>
</quote>

Where did I say this? And I certainly have enough "enemies" here in COLA
and why is it that not a single person here, friend or foe of mine agrees
with you. Exactly 100% of the people here agree that I never said any such
thing.

The only piece of shit liar making this ridiculous claim is *you.* Why
don't you back up your claim by quoting exactly where I said this?
Republican obstructionism has nothing to do with your lies. And I'm under no
obligation to answer for the republican party.
Here piece of shit liar "Michael Glasser" repeats his lie.
Walmart's labor has nothing to do with your lies and I'm under no obligation
to answer for what Walmart does.

news:CE9560E5.243AE%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
What I quoted is a lie from you because I *never* made any of those claims.
It's not my job to defend republicans. But keep on trying to divert the
conversation from your lies.
Here we see that piece of shit liar Michael Glasser is the true scumbag that
everybody in COLA already knows. Well done... you've managed to turn
practically everybody against you. Then again, that's what a lying piece of
shit like you deserves.

Do you have any friends in real-life? I doubt it.
It's not my job to defend Walmart. But keep on trying to divert the
conversation from your lies.
What quotes?????????????? You didn't provide a single one.

--

news:CE9561CF.243B0%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
Very simple moron - it's a lie because I never said this. And if I did say
this then you would be able to post a quote *exactly* where I said this.

I realize that you're dumber than dirt but do you expect me to show proof of
me not saying something? Are you looking for a message ID to something that
doesn't exist?

It's *you* who claimed that I did say this. Therefore it is *you* who needs
to supply the quote of me saying this.


--

> news:CE9560E5.243AE%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
Remember, snit has a special place in his heart for Walmart.
After all, Jeremy works there and we all know how Jeremy is an expert
on Android and ChromeBook return numbers.

Bwaaaaaaaaaa!


--
flatfish+++
Thinking of trying Linux?
Better Read This First:
http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
http://tinyurl.com/63qhmal

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On 10/29/13, 1:13 PM, in article l4p4te$1sc$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Except, of course, where I quote you in the post that broke you:
<http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
As I have said, if you *truly* believed you were misunderstood or
misrepresented, you would explain how in a reasoned way without name
calling, insults, seeding Google with my business name in an amazingly
vicious attack, and all of your other nonsense.
Good to see you acknowledge you have given up trying to defend the
Republican Obstructionism. Excellent. It is, basically, impossible to
defend.
I will speak the truth even if it leads you to have a tantrum and attack me
viciously. I do not back down from bullies well.

As I have said, the post that broke you gives you some of your exact quotes
where you do as I say - and you have no defense other than to throw a
tantrum and make vicious attacks.
I am the one encouraging the sticking to the topic and not going to
meta-debates and attacks. I will keep pointing you to the post which lead
you to have your tantrum... and notice that while I note it "broke" you, the
focus is on the topics were were discussing. I shall not sink to your leve.
They are available at the link I have provided you many times. Here, copied
directly from it (fixing an error in > marks before one of the quotes):

======================================================================

3) Disability
------------------------------------------------
> Take a look at the number of people who are classified as being
> "disabled" and are now collecting government benefits as just one
> single example:
------------------------------------------------
Here you are directly attacking those on disability for their collecting of
disability payments.

------------------------------------------------
> Today, the United States spends around $200 billion a year, literally
> paying Americans not to work.
------------------------------------------------
Notice here: you are complaining about paying people on disability to "not
work". No: they are receiving disability.

It is true that the system is set up to encourage those who can work some to
not work at all and that is insane. Completely unacceptable. But you
implication is that it is the fault of the people for scamming the system.
It is not.

------------------------------------------------
> There's twice as many people filing for disability today as there were
> in 2010.
------------------------------------------------
And this is where you note how there are now twice as many people... with
the clear implication that the added ones are committing fraud. I gave you
many other possible explanations for why it would increase... and you
ignored them all.

Instead you attacked me for noting your focus on the "twice as many people".

======================================================================

Again: as I have said many times - if you think you were not understood I am
open to listening to you. I suspect when you are done with your tantrum you
will get to the point where you can have a rational discussion about your
rather offensive comments. But until then you will continue your vicious
attacks. Do not worry - I shall not take offense at them nor shall I sink to
your level. Feel free to let out the rage you feel at your inability to
defend your views. I am OK with that.

On 10/29/13, 1:08 PM, in article l4p4jj$vh4$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
See how you continue to attack me, even seeding Google with my business
name.

Wow. You are having quite a tantrum. I sincerely hope you feel better soon.
Then maybe you can discuss the issues that got you so worked up or just let
them go. As it is you are showing deep humiliation at your own actions.

On 10/29/13, 1:17 PM, in article l4p542$39l$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
I have - in the post that broke you: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
See how you lash out? Do you not understand what a poor light you are
putting yourself in? Do not worry, though, when you are done with your
tantrum I shall not hold it against you.

"flatfish+++" <phlat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:jmvhqmakus59$.1s6z4rao8mv7d.dlg@40tude.net...
LOL - Good point. I forgot about the special relation snit has with Walmart.

For some reason that moron thinks that it's somehow up to me to defend
Walmart's labor practices. As if I care about that stupid strawman argument
of his. He keeps posting about how I can't defend Walmart's labor and some
nonsense about the republican party. Like somehow it's relevant that I speak
for Walmart or the Republican party. WTF?

The only thing that's relevant is his blatant lie of how I "attacked
disabled people" and how "I clearly said that 50% of disabled people
shouldn't be receiving benefits." What a load of make up bullshit.

On 10/29/13, 1:22 PM, in article jmvhqmakus59$.1s6z4rao...@40tude.net,
Ah, now just more absurd attacks... because I, gasp!, talked to a sales
person at Walmart. And even showed basic human respect for him. Is this
really such a huge sin in your eyes, flatfish?

news:CE9567C5.243C8%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
Good to see that you're still a dishonest bag of shit. I never started
trying to defend the republican obstructionism, therefore it would be
impossible for me to give up trying.
What truth? That I attacked disabled people? The "truth" is that every
person here who's weighed in on this has said that I never said this and
they've all said that you're a piece of shit liar for twisting my post into
such nonsense.

Is this the "truth" that you're talking about?
Ah yes... the "exact quotes" that you're not able to post here in defense of
your lies.
The topic is *not* Walmart and the topic is not the republican party. But
it's cute that you're "sticking to the topic" by constantly bringing up
Walmart and the republican party.

Because clearly bringing up Walmart and the republican party has everything
to do with the topic that you're a piece of shit liar who is grossly
misrepresenting what I said and simply making up things that I never said.


> I shall not sink to your level.

A dead rat sinking to the bottom of a septic tank couldn't sink to your
level.
You really are a dumber than a sack of shit.

I said referenced an article that factually states that there are - "twice
as many people *filing* for disability"

You dishonestly twisted this into - "He (Ezekiel) made it clear he believed
50% or more of the people *receiving* disability should not be"


"Filing for disability" != "receiving disability"


Don't worry about the other pesky little facts in your lie:


--> "He (Ezekiel) made it clear"
Evidently it wasn't very clear since a moron like you got 95% of it wrong.

--> he believed
I never said anything about what I believed or didn't believe I referenced
an online article with actual facts. Not once did I state what I "believed."

---> 50% or more of the people receiving disability should not be...
I said twice as many people are *filing* (not "receiving") and I never said
they "should not be." In fact, I made no comment at all as to whether the
should be or shouldn't be getting benefits. But that doesn't stop a liar
like Michael Glasser.


---> he is attacking them as lazy scammers or whatever
Too bad that I never used "lazy scammers" anywhere even once. Another lie
from Michael Glasser.


But other than the 95% that you got completely wrong and twisted into
something that I never said or implied, you're doing a wonderful job of
understanding what I "made clear."

--

On 10/29/13, 1:29 PM, in article l4p5r8$7ri$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
My oh my! I have talked to sales associates at Walmart and respect them as
people. To you and your right-wing buddies this means I have a "special
relationship" with them.

Seeing working people as people... something that to you is "special".

It really is quite telling of your mindset.
You are the one who brought up the topic of independence: so the question is
if you think Walmart should fund its own labor force or if they should be
allowed to pay so little the government has to step in and help them fund
it.

You have no answer for that. Your precious ideal of independence goes out
the door when you realize how *non* independent Walmart and other large
corporations often are.
You keep calling this a lie - even though I quote you in the post that broke
you: <http://goo.gl/MsXQZd>:
Again: when you are done with your tantrum I am open to hearing where you
think you were misunderstood. Reading through the quotes I provide at the
link it is quite clear what you were doing - mocking the majority of people
on disability as scammers of the system.

<quote>
</quote>
I referenced an article that factually states that there are - "twice as
*** "Filing for disability" != "receiving disability" ***


Don't worry about the other pesky little facts in your lies:
---> attacking them .... because they are *disabled*.
I criticized a broken government program that NPR said suffered with "fraud,
waste and abuse." But the piece of shit liar Michael Glasser dishonestly
twists this into me attacking disabled people.


Other than the 95% that you got completely wrong and twisted into
dishonestly misinterpretting what I "made clear."

On 10/29/13, 1:47 PM, in article l4p6tr$eig$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
<ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

...
>> ======================================================================
Aha! I admit I did not see this before. Thank you. Sincerely. Wish you had
just said so and not thrown your rather extreme tantrum and attacked me with
the seeding of my business name on Google. You should have just said this
from the start!

Had you noted the error I would have immediately acknowledged it. As it
stands, yes, given this oversight I owe you an apology - I looked at that
and read it, incorrectly, that you meant twice as many people were on the
system (and hence half in the system were seemingly committing fraud).

This is what I have been asking for repeatedly when I noted that if you felt
you were misunderstood you should explain where and how. You *finally* have
done so, and I commend you for it.

I rescind my claim that you accused 50%+ of people on disability for
scamming the system. I was in error.

--
"Linux desktop is why I got into Linux in the first place. I mean, I
have never, ever cared about really anything but the Linux desktop."
-- Linus Torvalds

On 10/29/13, 2:06 PM, in article l4p80u$lm0$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
See my other post where I respond to where you first noted this.

Now do you see why I was right to say that if you believe you were
misunderstood you should just explain where. Even after all this back and
forth, with your name calling and accusations and insults and even seeding
of Google with my business name in a very vicious attack, once you point out
where I made a mistake I openly admit to it.

As I said: I would not sink to your level of insults and attacks and
nonsense. I will stay above that. And I did. I am glad you finally, at least
in part, rose above your tantrum.

Are you ready to let it go now and move forward without such vicious
attacks? Or do you feel you need to still let out more anger and hatred?

As I said: I will not hold your emotional outbursts against you. You simply
lost it for a while over a simple misunderstanding. Maybe you can learn from
this. I sincerely hope so.

news:CE95778D.243E2%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
You can still go fuck yourself.

I want absolutely nothing to do with someone as thick and dishonest as you
are.

You're a pathetic liar who intentionally twists and misrepresents everything
into some lie that doesn't even closely resemble reality. I would rather do
something more enjoyable like finding a rusty spike and nailing my dick to a
burning building than to waste my time with a dishonest person like you.

Thanks for *finally* admitting your mistake and apologizing but I've seen
what a pathetic little person you really are.

As predicted, here comes Snit's apologetic phase. The kook snit is predictable as farting after eating a can of beans.

DO NOT BE FOOLED!

Snit is trying to ensnare you back into his snit circus.
He has already proven what a shithead he is so don't relinquish anything to that creep.

You have been wanred.

FUCK YOU.
You are just realizing that you got caught so now you are pretending that you missed something.

Nobody is buying your lies snit.
They haven't bought your Larry Washington neighbor tale nor have they fell for your Jeremy or Onion Knight stories.
Why?
Because you always seem to have someone waiting in the wings to support your lies and keep your snit circus running.

I hope Ezeke doesn't fall for your fake "Sorry I missed it" ploy. I doubt he is that ignorant.

So go screw yourself snit. Your circus in COLA is rapidly being shut down.

"Ezekiel" <ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote in message
news:l4pa38$32m$1...@dont-email.me...
Free tip for you that's useful both in life and on usenet. Before you accuse
someone of something like "attacking disabled people" or "clearly saying
that 50% of disabled people shouldn't be getting benefits" why don't *YOU*
first make sure that you have your fucking ducks in a row and have a clue of
what the hell it is that you're talking about.

It's not the job of someone who you falsely accused to prove they're correct
and it's not the job of someone you falsely accused to show you that you're
too stupid to read. If you're going to make serious accusations then you
need to first be sure that you have a fucking clue.

Next time it'll save you some trouble.

"Larry The Washington" <larrywashi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:31256fca-f3a1-4c11...@googlegroups.com...
See my other post that was made about 15 seconds before you posted this.

No worries Larry.

news:CE957929.243EA%use...@gallopinginsanity.com...
LOL - Maybe *I* can learn from this???

It is treason to throw the U.S. Constitution into the dust bin.
Starting with Herbert Bush, our politicians are slowly changing the laws
that take away your Bill of Rights and throwing the constitution into
the dust bin. I disagree with all the politics that ever have taken
place since then. Remember when Obama was campaigning? Where he said
that he would fund a million man army that is just as equipped as our
military and just as well paid? WTF???
Sounds to me like what happened in early Nazi germany. Note that they
wore brown shirts back then too.

On 10/29/2013 1:33 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com> wrote in message
> news:A4KdnYIpopjGlu3P...@bresnan.com...
> </quote>
Standard washington style politics. He has learned well from his masters.

Be careful with the handlers... once they are done using you, they will
find some way to throw you under the bus and be done with you. That's
how Stalin did it.

On 10/29/13, 2:42 PM, in article l4pa38$32m$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
So you are not ready to let go of your tantrum. OK.
Wait: you have been going on and on and on, humiliating yourself by spewing
insults and attacks and even seeding Google with my business name, only to
finally calm down enough and do as I asked - explain where you thought you
were being misunderstood. When you did so I looked at what you said with an
open mind and, even though it might be a bit embarrassing to me, openly
admitted to my error.

And you still blame me. Amazing. And below you make up more stories about
me... more attacks and insults. Then again, it took you some time to calm
down enough to actually do as I asked and show where you thought you were
misunderstood, perhaps you will calm down enough to fully let go of your
tantrum. I sincerely hope so and wish you well. As I said, I am a kind
person and will not hold your poor behavior against you.
Finally? I admitted it within minutes of you relaxing enough to let down
some parts of your tantrum and actually do as I asked and explain where you
thought you had been misunderstood. Just imagine how much anger and
humiliation you could have avoided had you merely done as I requested right
from the start. This can be a very powerful lesson for you if you let it be.

--
"But I have never, ever even run a Linux server and I don't even want
to; it's not what I'm interested in. I'm more of a desktop guy."
-- Linus Torvalds

On 10/29/13, 2:53 PM, in article l4pant$754$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
<ze...@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

...
We all make mistakes. As I said from the start, if you thought I had misread
something you should have said what.

Instead you threw a tantrum over that and your inability to defend your
other political views. You changed the topics from politics to yourself and
your own anger. You sank to the level of seeding Google with someone's
business name with the clear intention of harming them professionally.

Had you done as I suggested you could have merely noted, "Snit, please note
I said *applied* for disability, not *received* it". I would have
acknowledged the error and the topic could have stayed where it should - on
politics and the country and not on you and your immature tantrum.
* I misread something. When it was pointed out I did the right thing and
quickly acknowledged it and posted a public apology.

* You viciously attacked someone and worked to harm their professional
life. When it was pointed out you continued to do so and refused to
even admit it was wrong.

If you think you are riding the moral high ground on this one you are sadly,
sadly mistaken.



--
"On desktops, Linux has had a hard time cracking the 1 per cent mark,
although some of the web analytics companies now put it at around 1.5 per
cent." -- Linus Torvalds

On 10/29/13, 2:54 PM, in article l4papv$7gv$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
"90% of computers use Microsoft's Windows ... Macs account for 9% of the
market while the open source system Linux accounts for 0.8%."
-- Linus Torvalds

On 10/29/13, 2:56 PM, in article l4patj$85u$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
Maybe you can. Maybe you cannot. But look at the facts:
...



--
"Maybe there is someone who considers it disgusting for a parrot to have sex
with a human. Or for a dolphin or tiger to have sex with a human. So what?
Others feel that all sex is disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

Exactly... this bit is so old it has hair on it. It's nothing short of amazing how much smarter Snit believes he is over everyone he comes into contact with.

On 10/29/13, 3:15 PM, in article
WY-dnUrXqODrru3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Masters? Are you really that bent out of shape that I pointed out NASA is
not denying man's affect on global climate change?


--
"Blocking adolescentsน access to porn, or keeping them ignorant of sex in
any way, is likely to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable
to mistakes that can hurt them badly." -- Richard Stallman

On 10/29/13, 3:16 PM, in article
WY-dnUXXqOAuru3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Handlers? I think you have me confused with someone else.

For what it is worth, Ezekiel finally let go of his tantrum enough to
explain where he thought I misunderstood him. I looked and saw he was right
- and immediately apologized. My error was confusing his comment about the
increase in people *applying* for disability with the idea that they were
*on* disability. I gave a sincere apology. Just wish he had not thrown the
tantrum he did and had made his comment earlier before he humiliated himself
with such an outrageous outburst and even went to the point of seeding
Google with my business name to try to hurt me financially.


--
"When making pornography involves real abuse of real children ... that does
not excuse censorship. No matter how disgusting published works might be,
censorship is more disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

Personally, I think this is total crap from Snit. No matter as it doesn't change the circus he built (i.e. all the words and phrases he tried to stuff down your throat) and the more serious accusation of you attacking disabled people one bit; that outrageous lie stood on its own. Love to see Snit's 'apology' for that one, he's REALLY gonna have to believe you're a total idiot to swallow whatever bullsh*t he shovels at you

Here you are, largely just asking the appropriate questions in an effort to stimulate Snit's tiny brain on this subject:

"How did such a large percentage of the US population become disabled in the last 20 years? Medical technology is better now that it ever was. Are there a bunch of workplace injuries from all these dangerous factories across the country that's disabling all these people? Or perhaps this is just another inefficient government program that's ridden with fraud, waste and abuse that's being gamed by millions of people. "

And here is 'victim' Snit, playing the role on behalf of the "*disabled*":
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/OHocbCm1H9M/w6nl6Pp73w0J

On 10/29/13, 3:12 PM, in article
WY-dnUvXqOBer-3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
And I have done no such thing. You are making rather extreme accusations.

You have been on a fit of attacks ever since I noted how your interpretation
of the NASA video was clearly and unambiguously incorrect. Here, I even made
a video for you to help you with this: <http://youtu.be/20MBl_4eofo>.

Maybe once you understand your error you will not feel the need to attack me
so much?
Can you name a single right *you* do not have now that you had before Obama
was elected?


--
"It is often hard to persuade the developers of one component to do what
improves the system as a whole rather than what will make their own
component more useful and successful." -- Richard Stallman

Serous question: Do you REALLY think that the entire circus episode you created (accompanied with your *continuing* to talk down to him) is something he will just 'forget' about? What kind of drugs can possibly get you to that point?

Yup... and you also did a SHITPOT full of the other bizarre crap like you usually do. Apparently you're so high you forgot about all of it or you think he has. Must suck to be you ;)

>"Steve Carroll" <fretw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3ce7bf91-7492-4ab4...@googlegroups.com...
There's some good info here at NPR:

http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/

(It's actually a nice web-page. It's the first time I've seen a page where
the background photos scroll the way they do.)

I actually listened to entire the 50-60 minute long broadcast of this. They
bring up a lot of very good points that are difficult to ignore.

They talk about Hale County, Alabama (a entire *county*, not village, town
or city) where one-in-four people is on disability.

The report from NPR concludes that while there are certainly many people on
disability who are truly disabled in the traditional sense of disability,
the definition of "disability" is vague:

<quote>
There's no diagnosis called disability. You don't go to the doctor and the
doctor says, "We've run the tests and it looks like you have disability."
It's squishy enough that you can end up with one person with high blood
pressure who is labeled disabled and another who is not.
</quote>

The NPR report (and my point) has nothing to do with disabled people. (Odd
given this is about "disability") but rather what the disability program
seems to have mutated into. As the NPR report says:

<quote>
In the past few decades, an entire disability-industrial complex has
emerged. It has just one goal: Push more people onto disability.

But disability has also become a de facto welfare program for people without
a lot of education or job skills. But it wasn't supposed to serve this
purpose; it's not a retraining program designed to get people back onto
their feet. Once people go onto disability, they almost never go back to
work.
</quote>

When States hire private corporations to "push more people onto disability"
who otherwise wouldn't be on disability, I think that the wel intentioned
program lost its way and is no longer serving those that it was intended to
serve.
The chart is here:
http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/img/pm-gr-ssdi_numbers-616.gif

The number of people on disability *more* than doubled in 20 years and
basically tripled in 30 years. Those are some staggering numbers.

On 10/29/13, 5:28 PM, in article l4pjs8$t91$1...@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
I have seen that technique before - it is pretty cool.
Is anyone claiming it is a specific medical diagnosis? I do not think so.
There are lots of factors that come into play:

* What the person is capable of based on physical conditions
* What the person is capable of based on psychological conditions
* What the person is capable of based on education and training

And more. In other words, one person might be disabled if they are stuck at
home in a wheelchair and with severe anxiety, and thus be eligible for
disability pay, while another might not be because they have skills that
allow them to work through those conditions.

It is a complex problem... and the system is poorly run.
If someone with an 8th grade education gets physically disabled it is likely
going to have a different impact than someone with a PhD... though, of
course, even then this is not always the case.
You have already been shown that about 70% of people who apply to disability
get denied - and then once you are denied you need to go through a lengthy
and often expensive appeals process where you need a lawyer and judges get
involved.

You make it sound so *easy* to get disability.
What do you think the doubling is from? People cheating the system? The
system recognizing more forms of disability? The system working better to
recognize already known forms of disability? More people getting disabled? I
would love to hear your thoughts on it.

WARNING: If you say it is largely from people scamming the system I think
your head might explode. :)

--
"In fact, the main goal of Linux might be called usability... the most
important thing is that it works well and people ... want to use it."
-- Linus Torvalds

You misinterpreted their findings. CO2 cools not heat up the
atmosphere. Didn't you get that thru either url I had provided?
There is no error.
The right to choose my own insurance company or the right not to have
insurance, for starters. TSA in the airports is a human rights
violation. We are all being spied upon. Posse Comitatus is now in the
dust bin, so that the military can now take part in patrolling cities
and kill U.S. citizens. Even the feds now say that our founding fathers
were terrorists... a flip flop of morality in my opinion.

And in case you haven't noticed, according to the UN treaty... 100 miles
from either the northern border or the southern border of the U.S. is
now declared a constitution free zone. My entire constitutional rights
have been stolen.

I was wondering about that. Did Testors make a new kind of glue???
LOL!

Yep. And I was surprised that he hit on every one of us at the same
time. I believe you are right... some kind of new drug.

It isn't about that... it is about your communist masters that made you
the way you are.

On 10/29/13, 5:51 PM, in article
9Pednb-J7K6Dxe3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Serious question: do you not feel that such posts are below you? I expect
such from Carroll, after all he has been insanely outraged against me since
I disagreed with Bush on the Iraq war... to the point that he has tracked me
down to no less than seven groups to scavenge and forge quotes... but you...
I would think you would want to be better than that.

--
> As for Stallman, he is a repulsive person by any standard of decency.
... standard of decency or hygiene.
-- Lusotec

On 10/29/13, 5:47 PM, in article
9PednbyJ7K6ryu3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Which URL? The one from Principia Scientific where they get pretty much
everything wrong?

In any case, the video does not say that CO2 *only* leads to cooling. It
notes CO2 reflects the heat from the sun... the heat from outside the
system. It says nothing about the heat *in* the system.

Even if you think it does something different, NASA does not show any
indication it does. And you were using NASA as the "experts" here. Remember,
NASA is completely on board with the idea that global climate change is real
and largely caused by man. They could not make this more clear on their
website... and *nothing* in the video from them suggests they have changed
their mind.
Really: find a greenhouse and walk up to it. Feel the air outside of it. It
will be warmer than the air 10 feet away. It radiates heat. Do you think
that means the inside of the greenhouse is cooler because the greenhouse
affect is cooling it?

The idea is the same.
Nope: you still had insurance - an ER could not turn you away. And you can
still pick your own insurance.
That was pre-Obama. But, yes, I agree it is wrong.
And have been for a long time. And, yes, I agree it is wrong.
Please quote where the Federal government says this?
I would love to see evidence for this! I know the do searched within 100
miles they should not (and this has been going on since before Obama)... and
I am against that. But "Constitution free zone"... please show me this!


--
A short take on my views on Linux: <http://bit.ly/14fRI71>

On 10/29/13, 5:53 PM, in article
9PednbmJ7K4Qxe3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:

On 10/29/13, 5:52 PM, in article
9Pednb6J7K7-xe3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
Again, you should be better than this.

I doubt it.

Why do you have to have global warming? Is it the new boogie man?

If you really want something to really get worried about, google for
"The pacific ocean is dead". Also the pacific northwest where the
starfish are falling apart. Does China Syndrome mean something in
relation to Fukishima nuclear disaster that is far worse than Chernobyl?
RP 3 core has melted thru the containment vessel. And tepco doesn't
know where the core is anymore. Worse, RP 4 cooling pool where a lot of
core rods are stored. They are trying to remove the rods, but let one
rod touch another rod and you've got a real disaster on your hands...
the stuff will burn. And they've got tons of that stuff in RP 4. Tons
and tons of radiactive debris is released into the ocean every day.
This is real.
A greenhouse is not the earth. A greenhouse is usually made of glass.
The earths outer barrier isn't glass... it is gases which react much
differently than glass.
This greenhouse effect on the planet is a hoax and has no scientific basis.
Again, go back and restudy the NASA video. It is quite clear.
Just like Zeke has said, you are just playing head games.

Now, why is this greenhouse effect so important to you?
At a much higher price.
If I don't want any insurance, why should I? Aren't I free to choose
for myself?
Why doesn't he get rid of them then?
It was repealed by Obama on DEC. 31, 2011.
Google for it.
It has been on our local news TV feed here. If you live within 100
miles of the mexican border... you are in a Constitution free zone.
You've lost all your rights.

Don't bother with the need for proof. You are just playing head games.
It is obvious that you are not keeping up on the news, nor intend on
doing so.

When are you going to man up and admit you were wrong?
Why are you lying so much?
Is lying so important to you?

You should practice what you preach.

No, I don't. Let me put it in blunt terms....

You are a communist. They are not friendly to the Freedoms of this country.

o7udnUxyC6kR9u3P...@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mi...@cumulus.com>
wrote:
As I noted recently: you can be a fine fellow but are prone to conspiracy
theory thinking. Thank you for the fine example to prove me right. :)